The Marriage of Visual Latin and Henle

  • The Marriage of Visual Latin and Henle

     Barbara updated 2 months, 2 weeks ago 2 Members · 3 Posts
  • Barbara

    March 8, 2023 at 4:24 pm

    Help! I use Visual Latin in my homeschool with my 9 and 11 yr old and we love it. My older son is using Henle first year. I found the free document on your product page that was supposed to give me the Visual Latin lesson that would approximately correspond the Henle First Year Lessons, but the titles on list for the Visual Latin lessons doesn’t match up with the curriculum I’m using. For example: I just tried to look up the latter part of Henle Lesson 24, which is supposed to correspond to Lesson 57: Subjunctive Perfect, but that isn’t the title on my curriculum that I own that says: Lesson 57 is Verbs: Perfect, Fear and Cum. Am I doing something wrong? Is this an outdated document? Is there a better one? I have 7 kids, I don’t have time to just go through and try and guess and try and find which one goes with which on my own.

  • Ben Crist

    March 15, 2023 at 12:09 pm

    Hi Barbara,

    Thanks for using Visual Latin! Here’s how to read the VL Henle Guide. Henle packs a good bit in his chapters, and the order in which he deals with grammatical concepts can be unique at times. While Dwane orders his lessons differently, they cover the same essential grammar.

    This means that sometimes Dwane has to pick out a single concept from multiple concepts in a Henle chapter, and cross-link that to a single concept or multiple concepts in his course.

    In your example, the Henle reference for chapter 24 has a specific grammatical point named: Relative Clause introduced by quo.

    Earlier in the table of contents for Dwane’s Henle guide, there had already been two other references to specific points in Henle chapter 24: Relative Clauses; Relative Clauses of Purpose.

    The Henle point that you references is “Relative clauses introduced by quo.” Notice how this is a subpoint of chapter 24 in the Henle textbook table of contents.

    The Visual Latin table of contents does not list subtopics like that, but they do exist. So while you are correct that the subtopic does not appear in the title of Lesson 57, the subjunctive perfect is addressed at the top of page 195: “Learn to recognize the endings of the perfect subjunctive tense.”

    This document started as a set of crib notes that Dwane modified over the years in his classrooms. One of the schools required Henle so he found it easier to let students view the corresponding Visual Latin video for consistent help at home rather than re-re-re-re-explain during class time.

    If you need any clarification, let me know!

  • Barbara

    March 15, 2023 at 12:51 pm

    Thank you. I will keep trekking then. It may have just been the one lesson I tried that wasn’t as helpful.

    No, I wasn’t expecting a direct association, Henle certainly does put a lot into his lessons! I had watched the VL video after reading the Henle Lesson 24, but I must’ve stopped the VL grammar video 57 just before he talked about the ut and ne (not quo or any relative pronouns or ad, etc. so you see my confusion) because it was almost done and all he had talked about was cum (besides the basics of subjective), and that wasn’t the subject of the Henle lesson. I thought maybe I had the wrong Henle or maybe there was a previous of the VL videos or something. I’m learning along with my kids and I’ve only been through VL 1 through lesson 15 so far and I’m desperately trying to keep up with my older son in Henle, which is a great resource but not exactly the easiest one to use!

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